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    Quote Originally Posted by Badboy K View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by root View Post
    , NPC aggro switches now.

    thats why uber tanked proteus would be better idea
    Loki damage type selection lets you hunt anywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Hunt where the PvEers will use EM/Thermal damage?
    Huh? I don't know what you're on about, on my fit the resists for EM and therm are second and third highest. If you wanted a more even resist profile, you can run a kinetic hardener, and explosive rig. I actually just now realized this, and I might start doing just that.

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    I think he is referring to my fit, since I had some decent holes in my Em and Explosive.

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    I was just going off of memory that Lokis usually have silly high EM resist, so ensuring you're shot at by that was a way to raise your EHP.
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLibrarian View Post
    Thanks for the awesome updates. I had no idea you can MWD in almost every mission. I have never even ran a mission in my entire career in eve, only busted them. NPC Aggro switches, that's interesting and fun.

    Thanks for the fit, I will compare it, looks like it has more tank but less dps. Not real sure, either way the MWD thing is priceless, the fit just got so much easier and better.
    Just checked the numbers for this, your fit gets 60 more DPS in exchange for just under 600 less DPS tanked. Remembering the number of times I've used this to jump people in wormholes, missions, anoms etc. and the number of times I've gotten the kill with just a charge or two left in my ASB, I'd suggest that the tank is really worth it. That said, if I had 60 more DPS, I might not have had to sit around for quite as long chewing through their tank. I still think the tank is more important than the DPS in this case, that's a lot of tank for not much DPS.

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    I totally agree with that, I didn't realize the difference until I fit it up in eft and started doing resist checks.

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    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier

    5x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II (Hail M)
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
    Domination Warp Scrambler
    Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Medium 'Gattotte' Capacitor Booster (Navy Cap Booster 800)

    3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

    Medium Ancillary Current Router II
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

    2000x Barrage M
    2400x Hail M

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    100mn AB fits using RF ammo have trouble applying DPS to cruisers while orbiting at <3km, good luck hitting anything with Hail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    P sure he's lost this:

    [Loki, Prozacxx's Loki]
    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
    Damage Control II
    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener

    Gist A-Type 100MN Afterburner
    Dark Blood Warp Disruptor
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
    Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
    Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


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    Do you really have to ask if someone flying a pimped (and snaked) T3 is using links?
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    In the video with the loki he did not use links.
    The Rapier is my love boat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue1* View Post

    Huh? I don't know what you're on about, on my fit the resists for EM and therm are second and third highest. If you wanted a more even resist profile, you can run a kinetic hardener, and explosive rig. I actually just now realized this, and I might start doing just that.
    Are you the new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    Do you really have to ask if someone flying a pimped (and snaked) T3 is using links?
    Well it shall die a fine and honourable death. Probably half an hour after I've had it jumped out to lowsec Might have to get some LG snakes thou!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCriten View Post
    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier

    5x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II (Hail M)
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
    Domination Warp Scrambler
    Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Medium 'Gattotte' Capacitor Booster (Navy Cap Booster 800)

    3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

    Medium Ancillary Current Router II
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

    2000x Barrage M
    2400x Hail M
    Your shield booster sucks so much damned cap, you can barely even run it with the cap booster overloaded and nothing else running. Add in the AB at the same time and you cap yourself out in seconds.

    EDIT: ASB version is much better:

    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier

    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

    Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
    Dark Blood Warp Scrambler
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II


    Different scram for less CPU usage. Swapped the XLASB in over the XLSB which lets you drop the cap booster to a small. You don't even really need it, although it's nice to have.
    Last edited by Cue1*; December 21 2013 at 10:09:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue1* View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCriten View Post
    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier

    5x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II (Hail M)
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
    Domination Warp Scrambler
    Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Medium 'Gattotte' Capacitor Booster (Navy Cap Booster 800)

    3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

    Medium Ancillary Current Router II
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

    2000x Barrage M
    2400x Hail M
    Your shield booster sucks so much damned cap, you can barely even run it with the cap booster overloaded and nothing else running. Add in the AB at the same time and you cap yourself out in seconds.

    EDIT: ASB version is much better:

    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier

    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

    Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
    Dark Blood Warp Scrambler
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II


    Different scram for less CPU usage. Swapped the XLASB in over the XLSB which lets you drop the cap booster to a small. You don't even really need it, although it's nice to have.
    Who said you need to run the shield rep constant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCriten View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cue1* View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCriten View Post
    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier

    5x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II (Hail M)
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
    Domination Warp Scrambler
    Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Medium 'Gattotte' Capacitor Booster (Navy Cap Booster 800)

    3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

    Medium Ancillary Current Router II
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II

    2000x Barrage M
    2400x Hail M
    Your shield booster sucks so much damned cap, you can barely even run it with the cap booster overloaded and nothing else running. Add in the AB at the same time and you cap yourself out in seconds.

    EDIT: ASB version is much better:

    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier

    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer

    Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
    Dark Blood Warp Scrambler
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II


    Different scram for less CPU usage. Swapped the XLASB in over the XLSB which lets you drop the cap booster to a small. You don't even really need it, although it's nice to have.
    Who said you need to run the shield rep constant?
    Anything with more than 200 DPS.

    the thing from the buzz buzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan View Post

    Loki damage type selection lets you hunt anywhere
    Are you saying that i will hunt their hauling asses all day long in your carebearing pocket. I don't think you lift.

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    Tried the setup with 100mn( both mine and yours didn't like it at all (turns like a brick) also with asb once you run out of charges you have problems.
    But came up with this setup which works ALOT better in everyway
    [Loki, cloaky 3]
    Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
    Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

    5x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II (Hail M)
    Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Gistum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
    Domination Warp Scrambler
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster (Cap Booster 400)
    Large Shield Extender II
    Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier

    3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
    Interior Force Field Array

    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II


    800m/s has good orbit speed, with low grade crystal set reps 1000dps and has 40k ehp to soak up damage while you reload the asb and a web .
    Last edited by JohnCriten; December 27 2013 at 11:33:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuackBot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan View Post

    Loki damage type selection lets you hunt anywhere
    Are you saying that i will hunt their hauling asses all day long in your carebearing pocket. I don't think you lift.
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    So i figured I would make a post. I have been struggling to make a cloaky-webby loki. The idea is that I want a webby-cloaky platform for armor fleets. I want it to be able to cloak for shenanigans, and i want it to be armor tanked. If we are going with a shield fleet then I would just take my rapier.

    I was thinking it would be fun for solo, but it just seems like the proteus is just such a better choice for that, as this does get shit DPS...


    I have tinkered around a bit, and i have come up with the following. The issue is the anemic DPS, my rapier gets 50 more, and it applies much better since the rapier has arties.

    [Loki, pvp]
    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Armor Explosive Hardener II
    Armor Kinetic Hardener II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Damage Control II

    Stasis Webifier II
    Stasis Webifier II
    Initiated Warp Disruptor I
    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
    Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I

    Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
    Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
    Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
    Loki Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
    Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


    DPS is a measly 249, and since i would be shooting at falloff, it's more like 125 applied damage....
    speed is 1215 m/s, which isn't so bad since ideally they would be webbed out of scram/web range
    it does have 101k EHP which isn't so bad though

    The only way I can see to increase the tank is to drop some EHP (around 20-30k depening on the mod i remove) to increase DPS by about 50...


    Anyone have any ideas on how to make this simply better? as it is right now, I feel like i could just make an armor rupture and be almost as effective for like half the cost :/

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