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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Miners have a legitimate grievance, but black people sick of being shot by cops don't.
    Why can't they just compromise and agree to let police shoot them on Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays until noon?

    Then we can all get along
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Let's be honest tho, most (not all, but most) of the folks here are pretty obviously big-talking, little-doing Keyboard Warriors when it comes to the issues we discuss here.

    Pretty typical for an online community in this topic, everyone is an expert, everyone pretends they do alot, etc, etc, etc. It's doubly true here, since most of you are obsessed with the U.S. but are citizens of the E.U. You literally are sideline people, by definition.

    Getting into a debate about who does what outside of the internet is a fools errand of unverifyable sillyness. We all know what we do, and there is no reason to question what someone else does. They can just lie about it anyway. It's the internet ffs, lol.
    Are you trying to imply that I'm not Dragonflyer?
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Discussing anything on the internet is pointless really, esp. on social media where it's controlled info bubbles with professional trolls/agitators or w/e you want to call them. Better start convincing your family and friends, you'll have more success there.

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    In fact blowing up social media would do wonders to democracy and people solidarity.

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    TBH better start calling them antisocial media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venec View Post
    TBH better start calling them antisocial media.
    Prince Ea level wordplay there.

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    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ssness/616644/

    Why Liberals Pretend They Have No Power
    Elite politicians invoke the rhetoric of national emergency only to behave like hapless passengers trapped aboard a sinking ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ssness/616644/

    Why Liberals Pretend They Have No Power
    Elite politicians invoke the rhetoric of national emergency only to behave like hapless passengers trapped aboard a sinking ship.
    This gives me a lot of mixed feelings. He's essentially criticizing the democrats for not acting like republicans and shutting the government down in order to get what they want. I'm definitely still a little torn about wanting the dems to play hardball like that. I'm also no even sure it's possible, unless there's a funding shortage coming in the next couple weeks? And a government shutdown sure seems like it'd derail any hopes at further stimulus talks, with the Dems have made a priority (because people generally need to eat).

    He's essentially arguing that if trump is really that bad, then the dems should be burning everything to the ground to stop him from accomplishing anything at all, good or bad.

    Which I can understand, but at the same time seems like a really easy way to hand the republicans a buncha easy talking points (whether truthful or not) and lose another election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steckersaurus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ssness/616644/

    Why Liberals Pretend They Have No Power
    Elite politicians invoke the rhetoric of national emergency only to behave like hapless passengers trapped aboard a sinking ship.
    This gives me a lot of mixed feelings. He's essentially criticizing the democrats for not acting like republicans and shutting the government down in order to get what they want. I'm definitely still a little torn about wanting the dems to play hardball like that. I'm also no even sure it's possible, unless there's a funding shortage coming in the next couple weeks? And a government shutdown sure seems like it'd derail any hopes at further stimulus talks, with the Dems have made a priority (because people generally need to eat).

    He's essentially arguing that if trump is really that bad, then the dems should be burning everything to the ground to stop him from accomplishing anything at all, good or bad.

    Which I can understand, but at the same time seems like a really easy way to hand the republicans a buncha easy talking points (whether truthful or not) and lose another election.
    You have the exact mentality the article describes lol

    Too much second guessing and handwringing about how Dems will look if you do anything assertive

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    Pussy Dems need to go Sherman scorched earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by August View Post
    Pussy Dems need to go Sherman scorched earth.
    Did that in Waco, didn't end well.
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    Lest We Forget the Horrors: A Catalog of Trump’s Worst Cruelties, Collusions, Corruptions, and Crimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Pretty typical for an online community in this topic, everyone is an expert, everyone pretends they do alot, etc, etc, etc. It's doubly true here, since most of you are obsessed with the U.S. but are citizens of the E.U. You literally are sideline people, by definition.
    The reason a lot of us take an interest in what happens in America is because what happens there has serious repercussions around the world. It's not really the same the other way round except for maybe China and, guess what, a lot of Americans take a lot of interest in what happens in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Let's be honest tho, most (not all, but most) of the folks here are pretty obviously big-talking, little-doing Keyboard Warriors when it comes to the issues we discuss here.

    Pretty typical for an online community in this topic, everyone is an expert, everyone pretends they do alot, etc, etc, etc. It's doubly true here, since most of you are obsessed with the U.S. but are citizens of the E.U. You literally are sideline people, by definition.

    Getting into a debate about who does what outside of the internet is a fools errand of unverifyable sillyness. We all know what we do, and there is no reason to question what someone else does. They can just lie about it anyway. It's the internet ffs, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    kinda sus tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Pretty typical for an online community in this topic, everyone is an expert, everyone pretends they do alot, etc, etc, etc. It's doubly true here, since most of you are obsessed with the U.S. but are citizens of the E.U. You literally are sideline people, by definition.
    The reason a lot of us take an interest in what happens in America is because what happens there has serious repercussions around the world. It's not really the same the other way round except for maybe China and, guess what, a lot of Americans take a lot of interest in what happens in China.
    This. It affects us all, a fuckload, it's only normal for people to take an interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Pretty typical for an online community in this topic, everyone is an expert, everyone pretends they do alot, etc, etc, etc. It's doubly true here, since most of you are obsessed with the U.S. but are citizens of the E.U. You literally are sideline people, by definition.
    The reason a lot of us take an interest in what happens in America is because what happens there has serious repercussions around the world. It's not really the same the other way round except for maybe China and, guess what, a lot of Americans take a lot of interest in what happens in China.
    This. It affects us all, a fuckload, it's only normal for people to take an interest.
    If US haven't been fucking around the globe messing things up for other countries we'd leave you alone.

    Like the shit my country is in is directly/semi directly related to how your goverment strongarmed corporations in and forced certain economic decisions at the beginning of our economic transformation during early 90s that fucked over, and is continuing to fuck over the working people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Let's be honest tho, most (not all, but most) of the folks here are pretty obviously big-talking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steckersaurus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ssness/616644/

    Why Liberals Pretend They Have No Power
    Elite politicians invoke the rhetoric of national emergency only to behave like hapless passengers trapped aboard a sinking ship.
    This gives me a lot of mixed feelings. He's essentially criticizing the democrats for not acting like republicans and shutting the government down in order to get what they want. I'm definitely still a little torn about wanting the dems to play hardball like that. I'm also no even sure it's possible, unless there's a funding shortage coming in the next couple weeks? And a government shutdown sure seems like it'd derail any hopes at further stimulus talks, with the Dems have made a priority (because people generally need to eat).

    He's essentially arguing that if trump is really that bad, then the dems should be burning everything to the ground to stop him from accomplishing anything at all, good or bad.

    Which I can understand, but at the same time seems like a really easy way to hand the republicans a buncha easy talking points (whether truthful or not) and lose another election.
    that you're assuming that you can have "politics as usual" when dealing with the run-up to what looks very much like a fascist coup is truly peak liberalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steckersaurus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ssness/616644/

    Why Liberals Pretend They Have No Power
    Elite politicians invoke the rhetoric of national emergency only to behave like hapless passengers trapped aboard a sinking ship.
    This gives me a lot of mixed feelings. He's essentially criticizing the democrats for not acting like republicans and shutting the government down in order to get what they want. I'm definitely still a little torn about wanting the dems to play hardball like that. I'm also no even sure it's possible, unless there's a funding shortage coming in the next couple weeks? And a government shutdown sure seems like it'd derail any hopes at further stimulus talks, with the Dems have made a priority (because people generally need to eat).

    He's essentially arguing that if trump is really that bad, then the dems should be burning everything to the ground to stop him from accomplishing anything at all, good or bad.

    Which I can understand, but at the same time seems like a really easy way to hand the republicans a buncha easy talking points (whether truthful or not) and lose another election.
    You understand in real terams what this means.

    -Republicans be will "burning everything to the ground to stop (them) from accomplishing anything at all, good or bad"

    -Democrats will be "burning everything to the ground to stop (them) from accomplishing anything at all, good or bad"

    And the end result is where we are today, divided to the borders of Civil War, no compromises of any kind, and political extremists running both sides.

    And who suffers? All of us do, because nothing gets done. Ever.

    I guess if you buy into the arguments of certain folks here, and think the end results after this "broken down into sports-like win-at-all-costs gridlock" stage devolves into mass violence and a glorious future where all the "fascists" have been murdered and only good anarcho-socialists remain, I guess you might like it...

    After all, civility, compromise, incrementalism, moderation and centrism is the real evil. Much better to have division, hatred, stagnation, violence and maybe a glorious political revolution some day, maybe. Just ask the folks here who think violence is the only answer now.

    In before the usual "but THEY do it/did it first...." juvenallia.


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