US Politics Thread, 2.0

[Jack Coutu]

Another election cycle, another bunch of prophecies thrown in the trash and everyone pretending they weren't just just terribly wrong already onto foretelling more shit!

[Maximillian]

Another election cycle, another bunch of prophecies thrown in the trash and everyone pretending they weren't just just terribly wrong already onto foretelling more shit!

Yep, I got it wrong and am glad I got it wrong. Politics is so fragmented and with traditional methods of polling obviously not working everyone - with the exception maybe of the political partys' own internal polling - may as well be reading chicken entrails to predict results. Also with so many people voting early shifts caused by events at the end of a campaign have less impact they they once did too.

[Nordstern]

reading chicken entrails to predict results

Disassembly provides useful pathways.

[depili]

Is there a definition for chicken entrails for ghidra yet?

[Keckers]

So far it seems that young voter turnout was much higher than predicted and held back the red wave. How much has been done recently to encourage voter turnout?

[Lallante]

Polling suggests that the "blue wave" is a blue mirage.

It seems Democrats focused on abortion and voting access, while Republicans focused on inflation and crime. As a result, both the House and Senate will go red.

Sorry what? What revisionist bullshit is this? The polling was showing a moderate red wave and Red Senate and House. The pundits were saying massive red wave. No one was claiming Blue Wave, and the outcome is much better for democrats than the averages of the polls implied.

Even in the right wing rags this election was seen as a huge disappointment for the GOP

[Melichor]

I will say though the sheer fact that Warnock has to go to runoff in Georgia is telling of how fucked our country is.

[Nordstern]

I will say though the sheer fact that Warnock has to go to runoff in Georgia is telling of how fucked our country is.

A lot of people are not aware of who Walker is and why he's so important in Georgia culture.

[Lallante]

I will say though the sheer fact that Warnock has to go to runoff in Georgia is telling of how fucked our country is.

Walker plus Libertarian party voters would have been >50%

[Maximillian]

Libertarian votes don't automatically become GOP votes.

If the Georgia runoff becomes the determiner of which party controls the Senate it will be a circus beyond measure.

If it isn't then I expect a lot of voters won't bother to vote again.

The most interesting bit for me was what happened in New York. The Dems who control everything went from a moderate gerrymander to a full-blown wiped out the Republicans gerrymander that was found unconstitution by the State Court leading to a special master being appointed to redistrict. The end result was the GOP picking up 4 Congressional seats and a number of State seats.

Hopefully this gets applied across the 50 States as it is obvious that one party state rule leads to shit(er) Government due to a lack of accountability.

[Malcanis]

Libertarian votes don't automatically become GOP votes.

If the Georgia runoff becomes the determiner of which party controls the Senate it will be a circus beyond measure.

If it isn't then I expect a lot of voters won't bother to vote again.

The most interesting bit for me was what happened in New York. The Dems who control everything went from a moderate gerrymander to a full-blown wiped out the Republicans gerrymander that was found unconstitution by the State Court leading to a special master being appointed to redistrict. The end result was the GOP picking up 4 Congressional seats and a number of State seats.

Hopefully this gets applied across the 50 States as it is obvious that one party state rule leads to shit(er) Government due to a lack of accountability.

Not automatically, no. But in the end, most of them do because ultimately "libertarians" care more about giving their money to the government than they do about other issues, and they think they'll make more and pay less under the GOP.

[duckduck]

Libertarian votes don't automatically become GOP votes.

If the Georgia runoff becomes the determiner of which party controls the Senate it will be a circus beyond measure.

If it isn't then I expect a lot of voters won't bother to vote again.

The most interesting bit for me was what happened in New York. The Dems who control everything went from a moderate gerrymander to a full-blown wiped out the Republicans gerrymander that was found unconstitution by the State Court leading to a special master being appointed to redistrict. The end result was the GOP picking up 4 Congressional seats and a number of State seats.

Hopefully this gets applied across the 50 States as it is obvious that one party state rule leads to shit(er) Government due to a lack of accountability.

Not automatically, no. But in the end, most of them do because ultimately "libertarians" care more about giving their money to the government than they do about other issues, and they think they'll make more and pay less under the GOP.

But Walker will have also gained votes from people who came to elect the reasonably competent Republican Governor Brian Kemp. Kemp beat Abrams 53%-46%. Kemp won't be on the ballot in December. The Georgia run off will be close and might be a circus, but I suspect the democrats will win AZ and NV, so the Georgia result may be moot.

[Lallante]

Most self-described libertarians are just weed smoking conservatives who think poor people deserve it.

[Nordstern]

Begun the blame game has.

[Spartan Dax]

Begun the blame game has.

Oh how I'd like to see a Conservative civil war right now. It would be nice if half the party was turned off from voting for the other halves candidate.

[Nax]

Nevada senate race has been called for the Democrats, which means that they will continue to hold the Senate 50-50 (with vice president as tie breaker) or 51-49 if they hold Georgia.

[Nordstern]

Similar story in Minnesota. Democrats swept all statewide offices and are on track to take back control of the state Senate.

State auditor race was extremely tight: 0.3% separated D and R, two cannabis parties got a combined 5.4%.

https://www.startribune.com/2022-min...ral/600222056/

[VARRAKK]

I'm curious as to why the GOP lost.
Did their voters reject the MAGA candidates or did political issues like Roe v Wade, Studen loans etc pull them down?

[tulip]

I'm curious as to why the GOP lost.
Did their voters reject the MAGA candidates or did political issues like Roe v Wade, Studen loans etc pull them down?

Did the GOP lose? I thought they just didn't win as much as people thought they would?

[VARRAKK]

I'm curious as to why the GOP lost.
Did their voters reject the MAGA candidates or did political issues like Roe v Wade, Studen loans etc pull them down?

Did the GOP lose? I thought they just didn't win as much as people thought they would?

For decades with the exception of Bush post 9/11, the sitting president loses majority in the midterms.
Biden retaining control over senate is HUGE! Currently it is 50/50 with VP as tie breaker vote. Georgia is not settled yet, so they could get 51/49.
The house isn't important compared to Senate & White House.