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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    I'd rather them just impeach. at this point it's pretty clear the Joint Chiefs aren't with him, the most dangerous officials are the morons that probably helped them get inside. It'll keep pouring out as the weeks go on for sure though, but impeachment will probably happen after he's gone, not before, as Mitch is still the one who is responsible for a majority of this bullshit and will continue scheming until he's dead or gone.
    I have low expectations, I just want Trump to be barred from ever running for Federal office again.

    Beyond that, I'd be happy to see, support more. But I'd honestly settle for just that right now.


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    Impeachment at this point is the equivalent of the police charging someone and then never taking them to court, I suppose they could leave it hanging so if Trump does return in 2024 they have impeachment ready to go day one. There is no way the Senate will hear this before Trump is booted on January 20th and that will remove any pressure on Republican Senators to cross in enough numbers to convict.

    Odds are nothing happens.

    Now if you were conspiracy minded - the Capital invasion has lead to the deployment of more soldiers on US streets since the 1960s, including inside Federal and State Government buildings. What if someone really was planning a coup? Of course that would require intelligence and planning and there is no sign of that amongst US leaders so it's just to keep the morons at bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillian View Post
    Impeachment at this point is the equivalent of the police charging someone and then never taking them to court, I suppose they could leave it hanging so if Trump does return in 2024 they have impeachment ready to go day one. There is no way the Senate will hear this before Trump is booted on January 20th and that will remove any pressure on Republican Senators to cross in enough numbers to convict.

    Odds are nothing happens.

    Now if you were conspiracy minded - the Capital invasion has lead to the deployment of more soldiers on US streets since the 1960s, including inside Federal and State Government buildings. What if someone really was planning a coup? Of course that would require intelligence and planning and there is no sign of that amongst US leaders so it's just to keep the morons at bay.
    They can strip him of a lot of his presidential benefits, including the ability to hold office again (which I doubt will happen, as it still needs 2/3). There is nothing preventing impeachment after he leaves office.
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    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillian View Post
    Impeachment at this point is the equivalent of the police charging someone and then never taking them to court, I suppose they could leave it hanging so if Trump does return in 2024 they have impeachment ready to go day one. There is no way the Senate will hear this before Trump is booted on January 20th and that will remove any pressure on Republican Senators to cross in enough numbers to convict.

    Odds are nothing happens.

    Now if you were conspiracy minded - the Capital invasion has lead to the deployment of more soldiers on US streets since the 1960s, including inside Federal and State Government buildings. What if someone really was planning a coup? Of course that would require intelligence and planning and there is no sign of that amongst US leaders so it's just to keep the morons at bay.
    They can strip him of a lot of his presidential benefits, including the ability to hold office again (which I doubt will happen, as it needs 2/3). There is nothing preventing impeachment after he leaves office.
    Except the need to get 2/3rds of the Senate to vote and then the combined vote. Given the lack of Republican defectors in Congress that isn't going to happen so there is no point in the Democrats pushing impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillian View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillian View Post
    Impeachment at this point is the equivalent of the police charging someone and then never taking them to court, I suppose they could leave it hanging so if Trump does return in 2024 they have impeachment ready to go day one. There is no way the Senate will hear this before Trump is booted on January 20th and that will remove any pressure on Republican Senators to cross in enough numbers to convict.

    Odds are nothing happens.

    Now if you were conspiracy minded - the Capital invasion has lead to the deployment of more soldiers on US streets since the 1960s, including inside Federal and State Government buildings. What if someone really was planning a coup? Of course that would require intelligence and planning and there is no sign of that amongst US leaders so it's just to keep the morons at bay.
    They can strip him of a lot of his presidential benefits, including the ability to hold office again (which I doubt will happen, as it needs 2/3). There is nothing preventing impeachment after he leaves office.
    Except the need to get 2/3rds of the Senate to vote and then the combined vote. Given the lack of Republican defectors in Congress that isn't going to happen so there is no point in the Democrats pushing impeachment.
    Make the republicans go on record supporting insurrection. I’d say there is a majority of the country now who want to see it happen.
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    i was about to make the same point as Erich here, if they're willing to toss that much overboard in the name of power, force them to do it so that, when the next coup comes, you can stand on the principal high ground and use that as a rallying point.
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    So after GOP manages to defend him in senate, only question I see will they prove the case that a sitting president doing a coup is completely legal, or even go so far to prove that its legal for any losing candidate to launch a coup?

    Next presidential elections brownshirts will take over, whether GOP wins or loses the election. Nice knowing ya!

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    Are congress republicans further right than their senators?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Are congress republicans further right than their senators?
    Their term is shorter than that of the senators, so the majority of them were elected when trumpism was going ahead full steam. That's probably why they are more further to the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timaios View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Are congress republicans further right than their senators?
    Their term is shorter than that of the senators, so the majority of them were elected when trumpism was going ahead full steam. That's probably why they are more further to the right.
    Senators from any non polarized state can get away with more, but most have to at least pretend to be sane. The House really is the hall of madness since you could have a district insane views and get elected over and over and there's not much stopping you from doing wild shit

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    Haha!

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    Viking, n.:
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    Surprisingly low approval numbers IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Which is why Republicans continue to be traitors to this country, and should be held accountable in the most permanent way possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaztick View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timaios View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Are congress republicans further right than their senators?
    Their term is shorter than that of the senators, so the majority of them were elected when trumpism was going ahead full steam. That's probably why they are more further to the right.
    Due to gerrymandering, House districts are often "safe Republican", and the primary goes to whoever appears most conservative, instead of most likely to win a statewide election. The Tea Party came from the house.
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/u...committee.html

    Atop the Powerful Budget Committee at Last, Bernie Sanders Wants to Go Big

    To the chagrin of Republicans, the democratic socialist senator will play a central role in shepherding Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s agenda through Congress.
    There's gonna be some maaaaaad people. Couple days old but figured it was gonna be relevant.

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