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    The GOP really don't want people to find out about the massive coke orgies it seems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
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    Oh, dear. It seems there's a gay sex tape involving Madison Cawthorn.

    edit: And he's confirmed it's real.
    So what? He'll just say that he's prayed the gay away like the good evenagelical he is and then turn around and blame democrats for cynically leaking the tape. /j


    Guess he rubbed some old timers the wrong way with that sex party leak. The guy's toast.
    I can only hope this will open for him to finally accept himself and turn around and stop his enormous self hate for being an abomination of god. Or he wont and double down and melt down completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
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    Oh, dear. It seems there's a gay sex tape involving Madison Cawthorn.

    edit: And he's confirmed it's real.
    So what? He'll just say that he's prayed the gay away like the good evenagelical he is and then turn around and blame democrats for cynically leaking the tape. /j


    Guess he rubbed some old timers the wrong way with that sex party leak. The guy's toast.
    I can only hope this will open for him to finally accept himself and turn around and stop his enormous self hate for being an abomination of god. Or he wont and double down and melt down completely.
    OR the only value that the MAGA crowd actually cares about is the ability to shamelessly debase oneself in the performance of fealty to Trump, so he'll be fine.
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    Surprised no comments yet in re: the pending overturning of Roe v. Wade and the leak of the likely Majority Opinion.

    Going to be one of the biggest SCOTUS rulings in ages.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no comments yet in re: the pending overturning of Roe v. Wade and the leak of the likely Majority Opinion.

    Going to be one of the biggest SCOTUS rulings in ages.
    Last 2 pages not enough for mostly Euro's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no comments yet in re: the pending overturning of Roe v. Wade and the leak of the likely Majority Opinion.

    Going to be one of the biggest SCOTUS rulings in ages.
    Last 2 pages not enough for mostly Euro's?
    I stand corrected, only looked at this page an one or two posts on the last page, which seemed about non RvW.

    My bad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no comments yet in re: the pending overturning of Roe v. Wade and the leak of the likely Majority Opinion.

    Going to be one of the biggest SCOTUS rulings in ages.
    Truth be told it's not really surprising. At least not the way the scotus is stacked and the way usa is going the last 20 or so odd years.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no comments yet in re: the pending overturning of Roe v. Wade and the leak of the likely Majority Opinion.

    Going to be one of the biggest SCOTUS rulings in ages.
    Truth be told it's not really surprising. At least not the way the scotus is stacked and the way usa is going the last 20 or so odd years.
    People need to understand that this has been a work in progress by the religious right for nearly 50 years. There's a really good article here about the long tail of this tragedy, but the tl;dr is that after the Civil Rights Act, religious fundamentalists needed a way to galvanize voters that wouldn't run afoul of the new desegregation laws, since being openly, textually racist was finally sort of not okay. Abortion was the perfect issue, and they would go on to spend decades building institutions that would midwife (lel) fundamentalists into positions of power that would be insulated from voters, all with the single focused goal of overturning Roe.

    They have been steadily, fanatically working on this for half a century. That they finally succeeded should not be a surprise, and perhaps the only thing more predictable has been the Democratic Party's literally geriatric response.
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    Their priests must be running out of kids to fuck
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    Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg thought that Roe v Wade was an over-reach decision likely to be overturned at some point. It was the job of the Legislature to deal with this issue not the constitutional court. But the Legislature has failed to act even when it had the numbers which suggests that abortion is valued more as a wedge political issue rather than a medical right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no comments yet in re: the pending overturning of Roe v. Wade and the leak of the likely Majority Opinion.

    Going to be one of the biggest SCOTUS rulings in ages.
    Truth be told it's not really surprising. At least not the way the scotus is stacked and the way usa is going the last 20 or so odd years.
    Sadly no, it isn't surprising anymore.

    For people like me, I think the "best" aspect of the Trumpian Dark Age, is that it has truly exposed what so much of the United States really is, politically.

    Some of us, myself included, lived in a bit of denial. That as a whole, we really we're that racist, or sexist, that it was just a fringe minority on the right that was so extreme.

    Nope.

    The majority of Americans are, or are at least willing to support, a literal American Taliban pushing a legit theocratic fascist state, as long as it's based on their flavor of mixed Christian & Evangelical theology.

    Trump has brought so many out of the proverbial woodwork, silent or in the background noise no more, now angrily and openly screaming and jack-booting about over how much they truly hate women, minorities, and anyone to the left of the far right, including more classic Republicans (like I used to be).

    It's incredibly sad, and for a dedicated cynic like me, disappointing I was so blind to so many of my fellows.

    And the desire for real violence on the right is, admittedly, quite scary now. They seem to deeply hunger for a ethnic/philosophical cleansing Civil War in a way I never thought could happen here (and again, I was wrong).

    Well, lessons learned. Guess it just further propels my own move to the left. Already a Democrat now (which still feels weird to say out loud after ages of calling myself a Libertarian), and supportive of things many here call "Socialist", so at least there is that.


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    I don't know if it is a majority, or an electorally favored minority, but 45% is scary enough.
    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    "Holy shit, I ask you to stop being autistic and you debate what autistic is." - spasm
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    This is an actual tweet.
    "Holy shit, I ask you to stop being autistic and you debate what autistic is." - spasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post

    Some of us, myself included, lived in a bit of denial. That as a whole, we really we're that racist, or sexist, that it was just a fringe minority on the right that was so extreme.
    There's a reason europeans rip on America, and it isn't jealousy.
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    Exceedingly good of China (and now Russia against, I guess?) to step up and start giving Americans an external enemy to unit against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Exceedingly good of China (and now Russia against, I guess?) to step up and start giving Americans an external enemy to unit against.
    If Russia was so flimsy I highly doubt China would actually be a millitary opponent. China hasn't fought in ages, they have the same dogshit problems as Russia, and no combat experience isn't gonna help that get solved fast enough. They are an economic superpower, and I really hope people here ask "wait why the fuck do we need this massive military if you can't even use it because of nukes, of which we have so many?"

    I'll be waiting a long time I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    China hasn't fought in ages
    In early 1866, Prussia prepares to wage war against the Austrians. A popular opinion among civilians, even in Prussia, was that Austria is going to curbstomp Prussia. Prussia hadn't fought a war in half a century and was only a minor participant in the war against Denmark. Austria however had been fighting wars constantly and thus was expected to win on sheer experience alone. Turned out to be the complete opposite.

    I'd be careful about such statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Coutu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Exceedingly good of China (and now Russia against, I guess?) to step up and start giving Americans an external enemy to unit against.
    If Russia was so flimsy I highly doubt China would actually be a millitary opponent. China hasn't fought in ages, they have the same dogshit problems as Russia, and no combat experience isn't gonna help that get solved fast enough. They are an economic superpower, and I really hope people here ask "wait why the fuck do we need this massive military if you can't even use it because of nukes, of which we have so many?"

    I'll be waiting a long time I suspect.
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    China hasn't fought in ages
    In early 1866, Prussia prepares to wage war against the Austrians. A popular opinion among civilians, even in Prussia, was that Austria is going to curbstomp Prussia. Prussia hadn't fought a war in half a century and was only a minor participant in the war against Denmark. Austria however had been fighting wars constantly and thus was expected to win on sheer experience alone. Turned out to be the complete opposite.

    I'd be careful about such statements.
    I'm by no way a military expert but what i gathered and learned:
    Air superiority is by far the most important factor in any modern war, that includes to destroy long range anti air on the ground as well. NATO/US is based on combined arms warfare that means with air superiority you can target anything on the ground that is identified/lit up, that means long range artillery is useless. In 2022 you can add Drones (to identify any targets on the ground) to be very important for air superiority and i guess that is so far the biggest takeaway from the Ukraine war. I don't doubt that US military is watching the war very carefully and Drones big and small will be even more important in the future.


    We have no idea how good China is at that kind of warfare, if they trained it and if that training experience can be transferred to a real war. There is of course a slight difference when we speak of Taiwan but the principle is the same with air superiority at sea you can sink any surface ship.
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    It's not funny but mexico, always considered as inferior by the US, had ruled in Sep 2021 that abortion is not illegal anymore.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Mexico

    Add Irland to that, one of the most catholic states with prior one of the most strict anti abortion laws in western states. Since 2018 not anymore.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aborti...lic_of_Ireland


    It says a lot how backward the GOP really is. I don't wish the US a theocrazy as described in the Handmaidens Tale but it looks bleak.
    Does a population have informed consent when that population is not taught the inner workings of its monetary system, and then is drawn, all unknowing, into economic adventures?

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