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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    as for putting "them" against a wall, considering how strident the calls for doing the reverse is getting there is, its really a moot point by now, it's no longer a question if, but when.
    The fact that some people here see this and agree with it, instead of seeing it as a disturbing statement that sounds like it is coming from a potential serial killer, is frightening in itself.

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    you don't go for, for example, instantly enact free healthcare for all. you start small, and you slowly keep adding to it until there's essentially no difference between what you do, and free healthcare. most importantly, you work to take the heat out of the conversation.
    lol im glad you know a lot about American politics

    We did exactly what you described with healthcare, the baby steps incremental ACA where we tweak private insurance to expand coverage and try to find common ground with Republicans by using their plan from the Heritage Foundation. It was fucking despised for good reason.

    Try reading about American politics for a change, I'd start with A Crisis Wasted if you want to understand why your politics is DOA in the US
    Oh, the despised ACA that polls well with the majority of Americans, and was too popular for the Republicans to remove, despite control of Congress, the presidency, and spending a decade campaigning for its removal? That "despised" ACA?

    Some of you people really need to get out of your bubbles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    as for putting "them" against a wall, considering how strident the calls for doing the reverse is getting there is, its really a moot point by now, it's no longer a question if, but when.
    The fact that some people here see this and agree with it, instead of seeing it as a disturbing statement that sounds like it is coming from a potential serial killer, is frightening in itself.
    it does, it's a terrifying statement trough and trough.
    but it's also the reality of the situation as is, the first high profile call for this sort of thing came from a fucking senator in a high profile newspaper back in june and it's not stopping or slowing down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    as for putting "them" against a wall, considering how strident the calls for doing the reverse is getting there is, its really a moot point by now, it's no longer a question if, but when.
    The fact that some people here see this and agree with it, instead of seeing it as a disturbing statement that sounds like it is coming from a potential serial killer, is frightening in itself.

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    you don't go for, for example, instantly enact free healthcare for all. you start small, and you slowly keep adding to it until there's essentially no difference between what you do, and free healthcare. most importantly, you work to take the heat out of the conversation.
    lol im glad you know a lot about American politics

    We did exactly what you described with healthcare, the baby steps incremental ACA where we tweak private insurance to expand coverage and try to find common ground with Republicans by using their plan from the Heritage Foundation. It was fucking despised for good reason.

    Try reading about American politics for a change, I'd start with A Crisis Wasted if you want to understand why your politics is DOA in the US
    Oh, the despised ACA that polls well with the majority of Americans, and was too popular for the Republicans to remove, despite control of Congress, the presidency, and spending a decade campaigning for its removal? That "despised" ACA?

    Some of you people really need to get out of your bubbles.
    That's nice, but you're still wrong.

    It was underwater for most of Obama's presidency, and when it formally took effect in 2014, it tanked even more as everyone began eating these huge premium and deductible hikes. You can also see how 30 million Obama voters who were expecting things like a public option or "universal healthcare" just suddenly disappeared in the midterms for some reason.

    And the reason why it's "popular" now is because Republicans are trying to take away key protections like the pre-existing conditions clause. In that sense it's better than nothing, but it's always sucked as a healthcare law and this lib serf mindset is why we can't have anything nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    you don't go for, for example, instantly enact free healthcare for all. you start small, and you slowly keep adding to it until there's essentially no difference between what you do, and free healthcare. most importantly, you work to take the heat out of the conversation.
    lol im glad you know a lot about American politics

    We did exactly what you described with healthcare, the baby steps incremental ACA where we tweak private insurance to expand coverage and try to find common ground with Republicans by using their plan from the Heritage Foundation. It was fucking despised for good reason.

    Try reading about American politics for a change, I'd start with A Crisis Wasted if you want to understand why your politics is DOA in the US
    White boomers and other fascists will never accept "healthcare for all" unless it excludes niggers, wetbacks, perverts, immigrants, freaks, "millenials" and other untermensch. They have both plainly said and repeatedly demonstrated that they'd rather die themselves than let the government provide support for the above mentioned.

    'Centrism' in US terms is "democratic socialism for the white right, oligarchal syndicalism for everyone else"
    I hadn't planned to really participate much more before the election, since I'm a bit burned out (not just on the election, but personally, life is quite challenging right now), but I felt the need to say this:

    I'm uncomfortable with how flippant you are with use of the bolded epithets in casual discourse. Even if it's an effort at criticism, I don't think it's appropriate for you to say them. It's not necessary to make your point.

    I mean this as a "friend", or whatever we are here at FHC Malc. I'd really suggest being less willing to use the words in public discourse.
    I'm not going to lie about how racist these fuckoes are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post

    I'm not going to lie about how racist these fuckoes are.
    I have great confidence in your ability to call people racist without resorting to racial slurs yourself.

    But that would require being slightly less edgy on the internet. Can't have that, eh?
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    This thread casually ignoring all the Biden corruption coming out and all the social media censorship. Hypocrites. The lot of you. lol

    Edit: Just now seeing Malcís post about healthcare. First of all, go fuck yourself with that racist projection bullshit. I donít support the so called ďHealthcare for AllĒ because itís fucking stupid. It would mean me paying taxes to provide healthcare for everyone in the county, citizen or not. Which effectively means trying to provide healthcare for everyone on the planet if the can get across the border one way or another. If youíre not having to ante in, you should get to play a hand.

    I couldnít care less what someoneís skin color is, language they speak or where the hell they are from. If they are paying into the system and are a citizen then they have skin in the game. Then we can talk about healthcare for the citizens and citizens only. NO FREE RIDES! With membership comes benefits.

    Then there is a matter of whatís covered and here is where Iím conflicted. Yes I care about peopleís health, but I care more about their freedom. So if some guy wants to live on eating cheeseburgers for every meal, go for it. Itís your body, you do you as long as youíre not infringing on other peopleís rights. Now should I have to help pay for that fat fuckís poor health decisions because they most certainly will cost dearly on the healthcare program. No I should not. And that goes for smoking. If someone wants to smoke, go for it, but they can go get bent if they think Iím going to chip in on that lung cancer treatment.

    And we have not even gotten into what is covered. Iím not for some government run single payer bullshit. Everything the government runs, it runs like shit and costs the tax payers a fortune. The only thing that would slightly get me to sit down and listen to a proposal on healthcare is if it was for American citizens only, only covered the bare bones most basic healthcare like checkups and stuff and thatís it for now. See how it goes and if that program is not having the funding misspent, no corruption, or other shenanigans, we look at expanding what it covers and increase funding.

    But shit guys, unless you are a total fucking moron, we all know there is no way a government run program could do that. Itís record is concrete proof of it. So if you want that ďHealthcare for AllĒ, either leave (I couldnít care less) and go to a county that has that label or fund it yourself.

    No more handouts, fucking leaches.
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    If you've got time to write such a long and uninformed post, you've got time to present your evidence for the voting fraud at your work. Hop to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    This thread casually ignoring all the Biden corruption coming out and all the social media censorship. Hypocrites. The lot of you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    This thread casually ignoring all the Biden corruption coming out and all the social media censorship. Hypocrites. The lot of you. lol

    Edit: Just now seeing Malcís post about healthcare. First of all, go fuck yourself with that racist projection bullshit. I donít support the so called ďHealthcare for AllĒ because itís fucking stupid. It would mean me paying taxes to provide healthcare for everyone in the county, citizen or not. Which effectively means trying to provide healthcare for everyone on the planet if the can get across the border one way or another. If youíre not having to ante in, you should get to play a hand.

    I couldnít care less what someoneís skin color is, language they speak or where the hell they are from. If they are paying into the system and are a citizen then they have skin in the game. Then we can talk about healthcare for the citizens and citizens only. NO FREE RIDES! With membership comes benefits.

    Then there is a matter of whatís covered and here is where Iím conflicted. Yes I care about peopleís health, but I care more about their freedom. So if some guy wants to live on eating cheeseburgers for every meal, go for it. Itís your body, you do you as long as youíre not infringing on other peopleís rights. Now should I have to help pay for that fat fuckís poor health decisions because they most certainly will cost dearly on the healthcare program. No I should not. And that goes for smoking. If someone wants to smoke, go for it, but they can go get bent if they think Iím going to chip in on that lung cancer treatment.

    And we have not even gotten into what is covered. Iím not for some government run single payer bullshit. Everything the government runs, it runs like shit and costs the tax payers a fortune. The only thing that would slightly get me to sit down and listen to a proposal on healthcare is if it was for American citizens only, only covered the bare bones most basic healthcare like checkups and stuff and thatís it for now. See how it goes and if that program is not having the funding misspent, no corruption, or other shenanigans, we look at expanding what it covers and increase funding.

    But shit guys, unless you are a total fucking moron, we all know there is no way a government run program could do that. Itís record is concrete proof of it. So if you want that ďHealthcare for AllĒ, either leave (I couldnít care less) and go to a county that has that label or fund it yourself.

    No more handouts, fucking leaches.
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    Showing a tweet where Marlona's great leader links to a satire piece, mistakes it for and passes it on as real news and I rethorically ask what kind of dumbfuck would vote and/or defend such stupidity.

    Shows up a page later and defends such stupidity

    Couldn't be more predictable if he tried

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    This thread casually ignoring all the Biden corruption coming out and all the social media censorship. Hypocrites. The lot of you. lol

    Edit: Just now seeing Malc’s post about healthcare. First of all, go fuck yourself with that racist projection bullshit. I don’t support the so called “Healthcare for All” because it’s fucking stupid. It would mean me paying taxes to provide healthcare for everyone in the county, citizen or not. Which effectively means trying to provide healthcare for everyone on the planet if the can get across the border one way or another. If you’re not having to ante in, you should get to play a hand.

    I couldn’t care less what someone’s skin color is, language they speak or where the hell they are from. If they are paying into the system and are a citizen then they have skin in the game. Then we can talk about healthcare for the citizens and citizens only. NO FREE RIDES! With membership comes benefits.

    Then there is a matter of what’s covered and here is where I’m conflicted. Yes I care about people’s health, but I care more about their freedom. So if some guy wants to live on eating cheeseburgers for every meal, go for it. It’s your body, you do you as long as you’re not infringing on other people’s rights. Now should I have to help pay for that fat fuck’s poor health decisions because they most certainly will cost dearly on the healthcare program. No I should not. And that goes for smoking. If someone wants to smoke, go for it, but they can go get bent if they think I’m going to chip in on that lung cancer treatment.

    And we have not even gotten into what is covered. I’m not for some government run single payer bullshit. Everything the government runs, it runs like shit and costs the tax payers a fortune. The only thing that would slightly get me to sit down and listen to a proposal on healthcare is if it was for American citizens only, only covered the bare bones most basic healthcare like checkups and stuff and that’s it for now. See how it goes and if that program is not having the funding misspent, no corruption, or other shenanigans, we look at expanding what it covers and increase funding.

    But shit guys, unless you are a total fucking moron, we all know there is no way a government run program could do that. It’s record is concrete proof of it. So if you want that “Healthcare for All”, either leave (I couldn’t care less) and go to a county that has that label or fund it yourself.

    No more handouts, fucking leaches.
    hi marlona sorry maybe you don't view new messages in a thread or you can't scroll up or something but a few people have asked you previously about the evidence of vote stuffing in your workplace? im sure you could respond to those posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    This thread casually ignoring all the Biden corruption coming out and all the social media censorship. Hypocrites. The lot of you. lol

    Edit: Just now seeing Malc’s post about healthcare. First of all, go fuck yourself with that racist projection bullshit. I don’t support the so called “Healthcare for All” because it’s fucking stupid. It would mean me paying taxes to provide healthcare for everyone in the county, citizen or not. Which effectively means trying to provide healthcare for everyone on the planet if the can get across the border one way or another. If you’re not having to ante in, you should get to play a hand.

    I couldn’t care less what someone’s skin color is, language they speak or where the hell they are from. If they are paying into the system and are a citizen then they have skin in the game. Then we can talk about healthcare for the citizens and citizens only. NO FREE RIDES! With membership comes benefits.

    Then there is a matter of what’s covered and here is where I’m conflicted. Yes I care about people’s health, but I care more about their freedom. So if some guy wants to live on eating cheeseburgers for every meal, go for it. It’s your body, you do you as long as you’re not infringing on other people’s rights. Now should I have to help pay for that fat fuck’s poor health decisions because they most certainly will cost dearly on the healthcare program. No I should not. And that goes for smoking. If someone wants to smoke, go for it, but they can go get bent if they think I’m going to chip in on that lung cancer treatment.

    And we have not even gotten into what is covered. I’m not for some government run single payer bullshit. Everything the government runs, it runs like shit and costs the tax payers a fortune. The only thing that would slightly get me to sit down and listen to a proposal on healthcare is if it was for American citizens only, only covered the bare bones most basic healthcare like checkups and stuff and that’s it for now. See how it goes and if that program is not having the funding misspent, no corruption, or other shenanigans, we look at expanding what it covers and increase funding.

    But shit guys, unless you are a total fucking moron, we all know there is no way a government run program could do that. It’s record is concrete proof of it. So if you want that “Healthcare for All”, either leave (I couldn’t care less) and go to a county that has that label or fund it yourself.

    No more handouts, fucking leaches.
    Ah yes, the final proof. The conservative right were the cuckolds all along!
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    Americans currently pay more than any other developed nation, and some undeveloped nations, for healthcare which is only good if you're mega rich and utterly shit for everyone else.

    Marlona unironically defends this.

    Lol what a dickhead.

    Not sure what else to expect from someone that actively participates in voter fraud though.

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    Also that didn't sound like abloo bloo to me, PM me and we can agree on a meeting spot and settle this with queensberry rules, that's a serious offer btw. I've been a member of this community since 2005 and i've never met a more toxic individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    This thread casually ignoring all the Biden corruption coming out and all the social media censorship. Hypocrites. The lot of you. lol

    Have something you want to tell us?

    If so, be a responsible adult and send us an email to*mexicans@voterfraud.com instead of crowing about it on the forums.

    If not, feel free to take your completely unsubstantiated rumors somewhere else, most likely to a third party qanon forum for further discussion and conspiracy theory-crafting.

    We have rules against rumor mongering and ranting here, fyi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
    Also that didn't sound like abloo bloo to me, PM me and we can agree on a meeting spot and settle this with queensberry rules, that's a serious offer btw. I've been a member of this community since 2005 and i've never met a more toxic individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    This thread casually ignoring all the Biden corruption coming out and all the social media censorship. Hypocrites. The lot of you. lol

    Edit: Just now seeing Malc’s post about healthcare. First of all, go fuck yourself with that racist projection bullshit. I don’t support the so called “Healthcare for All” because it’s fucking stupid. It would mean me paying taxes to provide healthcare for everyone in the county, citizen or not. Which effectively means trying to provide healthcare for everyone on the planet if the can get across the border one way or another. If you’re not having to ante in, you should get to play a hand.

    I couldn’t care less what someone’s skin color is, language they speak or where the hell they are from. If they are paying into the system and are a citizen then they have skin in the game. Then we can talk about healthcare for the citizens and citizens only. NO FREE RIDES! With membership comes benefits.

    Then there is a matter of what’s covered and here is where I’m conflicted. Yes I care about people’s health, but I care more about their freedom. So if some guy wants to live on eating cheeseburgers for every meal, go for it. It’s your body, you do you as long as you’re not infringing on other people’s rights. Now should I have to help pay for that fat fuck’s poor health decisions because they most certainly will cost dearly on the healthcare program. No I should not. And that goes for smoking. If someone wants to smoke, go for it, but they can go get bent if they think I’m going to chip in on that lung cancer treatment.

    And we have not even gotten into what is covered. I’m not for some government run single payer bullshit. Everything the government runs, it runs like shit and costs the tax payers a fortune. The only thing that would slightly get me to sit down and listen to a proposal on healthcare is if it was for American citizens only, only covered the bare bones most basic healthcare like checkups and stuff and that’s it for now. See how it goes and if that program is not having the funding misspent, no corruption, or other shenanigans, we look at expanding what it covers and increase funding.

    But shit guys, unless you are a total fucking moron, we all know there is no way a government run program could do that. It’s record is concrete proof of it. So if you want that “Healthcare for All”, either leave (I couldn’t care less) and go to a county that has that label or fund it yourself.

    No more handouts, fucking leaches.
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