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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeves View Post
    Not sure if this is the place to post... But I've been dinking around on making myself a game on my spare time over the last year or so. It's both a passion project but also a way to teach myself coding, design and art, so I've been enjoying it.

    Since I hate everything regarding the current video game industry (early access, DLC, loot boxes, ect ect ect) my idea when its done is to give it away for free, and if people enjoy it they are welcome to toss me a few bucks via donations.

    Stupid idea and I'll never get any money worth anything? Or 'Hey, not bad! Go for it!'?
    https://itch.io/docs/creators/pricing

    tl;dr
    yes, there is a small part of the industry that already does it.

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    Look at dorf fortress if you want to see how to do it right.
    With a learning curve far beyond eve's? Online.
    I meant how they ran things there not to copy scope or design choices.

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    Now -318k points, most downvoted reddit post in history. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBat...ocked/dppum98/
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Now -318k points, most downvoted reddit post in history. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBat...ocked/dppum98/
    Because *this* of all things is what truly matters in life.

    Man fuck the internet.

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    Reminder that reddit karma isn't a universal ranking, it's just what some reddit nerds bandwagoned...
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Now -318k points, most downvoted reddit post in history. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBat...ocked/dppum98/
    Because *this* of all things is what truly matters in life.

    Man fuck the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiss View Post
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    Now -318k points, most downvoted reddit post in history. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBat...ocked/dppum98/
    Because *this* of all things is what truly matters in life.

    Man fuck the internet.

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    Well, it shows that there are at least 400k starwar nerds on reddit that were considering buying the game. Probably still do.

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    i thought this comment was pretty spot on.

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    I recognize that you are a front-line level employee in a multi-billion dollar entertainment conglomerate, and that you likely have no say in the message you're giving. Likely, your manager and your manager's manager don't have the right to call into question the strategic business decisions that get made by the highest levels of the company.

    So please understand that when I say this, I am not saying it to you. I feel for you, because you have a lonely, thankless job, trying to do your best to rehabilitate the public face of an incredibly hated company. I don't resent you at all, I don't resent your manager, and I respect the person behind the keyboard.

    But fuck EA. I don't buy your games anymore. I am beyond insulted by the microtransaction/season pass/greedy-lazy business model that your company has perfected over the past decade or so. It's disgusting. It's a perversion of gaming. The suits that control your company aren't interested in anything but pushing out shitty incremental upgrades to keep us wasting money on shit, and on getting a small percentage of addicts to bankrupt themselves $5 at a time.

    It's fucking deviant. It's absolutely irresponsible. It's disgusting. Fuck you guys. I am not buying another EA game again until the upper levels of business management at EA are fucking stripped down and replaced by people who aim to make fair profits by producing great content again. EA used to do that, but it's been years, and I'm done pretending. Every new game that I've bought for the past year, I've checked to make sure that EA was not involved before paying. I plan to continue that until serious changes are made.

    You can't fix this. I know your bosses want you to, but you can't. Because somewhere, there's a CEO, or President of Game Design, or a fucking board of directors who have decided to produce shitty games loaded with dopamine drops to leech money rather than earn it. That person has ruined your company's goodwill.
    Personally i deeply dislike the influence of "gambling" introduced to children via lootboxes. And EA is not alone (hi Blizzzard). This along with that the only adverts on radio these days are for gambling and quick loans does not make me a happy parent. Makes me wonder if ownerships of gaming companies and gabling companies intertwine.
    And its not like im a saint or anything, being a semi-serious poker player for 15 years.

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    Poker is explicity about gambling on your hand vs the other guys tho? Thats a bit like saying you are against lobbying, but you are a regular at town-hall meetings; the two are similar but not in the way that it counts.

    Fuck EA, yes, but triple-A gaming has been about soulless profit optimization about as long as they have existed as a company, and longer than MTX have been a thing. And not just them (hello Ubisoft, hello Activision).

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    i think the justification is that it's not gambling as you basically buy a crate or whatever and whatever the drop, you always get a drop.

    bit fuzzy, i think that was the end result when this got raised in battlefield.

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    Wat. I dont know the perfect translation off-the-cuff, but in raffles theres a thing called "Trostpreis". Essentially, you give us 1 euro we give you 5 cent worth of chinese plastic. Doesnt mean its not gambling, in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldrion Dosto View Post
    Makes me wonder if ownerships of gaming companies and gabling companies intertwine.
    The money behind them is increasingly intermingled.

    Well, the people behind the shell companies behind the money behind them are basically the same.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    The tragic thing is battlefront 2 is a genuinely great game tbh. It feels very nice to play and I'm even interested in the campaign from playing 2 missions on the trial.

    The boxes are utter shite though. If anything though at least fucking ea is answering when people shit on them. Where is the goddamn rage and reaction at Activision blizzard or WB or ubisoft ffs.

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    EA backed down somewhat, in a oddly rare move for them

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41981979

    One of the game's developers, tweeting from a locked account, said he had received seven death threats and more than 1,600 "individual personal attacks".
    sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    EA backed down somewhat, in a oddly rare move for them

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41981979

    One of the game's developers, tweeting from a locked account, said he had received seven death threats and more than 1,600 "individual personal attacks".
    sad
    Internet, it never changes.

    To be fair they already changed the system once since the open beta after feedback, but the issue is they fixed something but fucked up something else heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    EA backed down somewhat, in a oddly rare move for them

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41981979

    One of the game's developers, tweeting from a locked account, said he had received seven death threats and more than 1,600 "individual personal attacks".
    sad
    Internet, it never changes.

    To be fair they already changed the system once since the open beta after feedback, but the issue is they fixed something but fucked up something else heh.
    Well their "fix" is reducing the cost with 75% but what they dont state as loudly is they decrease rewards with 75% (from 20k to 5k). So i fail to see what's changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldrion Dosto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by teds :D View Post
    EA backed down somewhat, in a oddly rare move for them

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41981979

    One of the game's developers, tweeting from a locked account, said he had received seven death threats and more than 1,600 "individual personal attacks".
    sad
    Internet, it never changes.

    To be fair they already changed the system once since the open beta after feedback, but the issue is they fixed something but fucked up something else heh.
    Well their "fix" is reducing the cost with 75% but what they dont state as loudly is they decrease rewards with 75% (from 20k to 5k). So i fail to see what's changed?
    They didn't change regular game rewards. Only the end of campaign reward you get once.

    Yes its shit, but fuck me the misinformation about this stuff is ridiculous and not doing anybody any service.

    Also what pisses me off is thst this "muh Vader" bullshit puts a spotlight on the completely wrong part of the Mt issue in this game. It's a character you only occasionally get to use and play for a minor amount of time and is no more powerful than the other heroes. While the rest of the bullshit gets mostly ignored because of this. Ugh.

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