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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    Latest round of wind farm contracts are out and they've halved the required guaranteed price. It's now on the order of 2/3 of that spent on Hinkley.

    RIP Nuclear.
    Yeah we will see how that goes once wind / solar represent a large % of energy generation. My bet is it will go similar as it happened in Germany. Price was so low that coal plants wanted to shut down and a law was brought in preventing them doing so. Because you know you actually need a stable power source.
    Or better batteries.
    Try and do the math on that. Going full solar/wind is unfeasible... We are far more likely see solar / wind being stuck at sub 20% share. Even that is better than nothing at least.


    

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    Important new developments in the Tory youth wing. Taken from an Activate website popup:

    Activate has not officially launched… yet. We were only established over the last couple of weeks and are yet to formally launch our organisation.

    The recent media attention we have received was not courted by us, but was in fact a response to the orchestrated attack on Activate and the individuals who helped form the movement that Activate was born out of. The media coverage received was neither accurate, nor evidence based. We are disappointed by the viciousness of these personal attacks, some of which were against members under the age of 18.

    Activate is in no way, shape or form associated with the Conservative Party. Activate is not a “Tory-momentum” but we do hope it will be a vehicle for young conservatives to get engaged. Finally, the ‘Whatsapp’ posts that are being connected to Activate by the media did not originate from Activate or any of our members. Activate does not tolerate those views and would withdraw the membership of any member caught purporting such ignorant nonsense.

    When we are ready to launch, we will send press releases and shout proudly about it. In the meantime, please back Activate by becoming a member and getting engaged. #backactivate
    According to the New Statesman all of its founder members have left http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...-tory-momentum



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    What's the cost of one of them memberships...?
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    I think their minimum donation is 10 (changed from any amount due to people trolling the top 10 donations part of the website) but dunno if they have some more formalised membership fee.



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    I'm starting to lose faith in my evil scheming Tories given their recent performance - is this a ploy to go for the pity vote ("aww oh look at the poor Tories running headfirst into a wall again and again, the poor poor things, someone has to help them/vote for them")?

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    The sight of Tories flapping like chickens warms the cockles of my heart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
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    Latest round of wind farm contracts are out and they've halved the required guaranteed price. It's now on the order of 2/3 of that spent on Hinkley.

    RIP Nuclear.
    Yeah we will see how that goes once wind / solar represent a large % of energy generation. My bet is it will go similar as it happened in Germany. Price was so low that coal plants wanted to shut down and a law was brought in preventing them doing so. Because you know you actually need a stable power source.
    Or better batteries.
    Try and do the math on that. Going full solar/wind is unfeasible... We are far more likely see solar / wind being stuck at sub 20% share. Even that is better than nothing at least.
    https://ec.europa.eu/energy/sites/en...1565_part2.pdf

    Depends on the scenarios really, and how much we go for energy efficiency, but see pages 14, 15 and 21 for relevant graphs and numbers under different scenarios, in 2050 solar expected at around 10%, wind at 30%, hydro and biomass also count as renewables and come in at 10% each as well, for a total of ~60% total power generated from renewable sources. And unless we have a total shift from current standard fossil fuels to hydrogen, these large fossil fuel power plants will have to remain, to provide a stable base power supply, that renewables synchronise into.

    IF (big if) hydrogen takes off, you will see a much more distibuted baseline power generation structure, since energy efficiency will dictate such capacities being built in close proximity to a primary consumer (data-centre, warehouses, hospitals, you name it). But only hydrogen, as an energy storage medium, has any potential currently to replace the old fossil fuel giants.


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    Same thing is happening here in Oz. The Federal Government more or less forced an energy provider to keep, sell or replace the generation capacity of a 30 year coal fired plant rather than decommission it because NSW would lose 12% of total generation and a higher % of base load.

    So we can't build newer high-efficiency coal plants, nuclear is a no-no, we sell so much LPG overseas we have a domestic storage, there is no energy plan due to conservatives hating renewables, we face blackouts if it gets really hot, so the solution is to keep obsolete coal plants going beyond their decommissioning date.

    Christ our politicians suck!

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    Shame it will just get passed with no issues as no Tory or DUP member will vote against it. By the time it will matter everyone will have moved on.

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    I bet there will be one who doesn't get it and will vote against it. Any bets on who that might be?

    Anna Soubry maybe in a fit of rage?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DerWish View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox View Post
    I bet there will be one who doesn't get it and will vote against it. Any bets on who that might be?

    Anna Soubry maybe in a fit of rage?
    There's enough Labour MPs who are either nutcases or who represent absolute backwaters who will vote with the tories to more than make up for any little rebellion, especially at this stage of the bill.

    The Lords is where the action will happen. Remember this isn't a manifesto issue, the Lords can basically do whatever the fuck they like to this bill.

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    Gubment lifting public sector pay cap for police and prison officers this year, though with inflation at 2.9% now it's still a real-terms cut. Say "next year" for the rest. Unions aren't happy so winter of discontent incoming.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    Gubment lifting public sector pay cap for police and prison officers this year, though with inflation at 2.9% now it's still a real-terms cut. Say "next year" for the rest. Unions aren't happy so winter of discontent incoming.
    Interesting that it's the police they're trying to keep happy. It's almost as though they're expecting trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodj Blake View Post
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    Gubment lifting public sector pay cap for police and prison officers this year, though with inflation at 2.9% now it's still a real-terms cut. Say "next year" for the rest. Unions aren't happy so winter of discontent incoming.
    Interesting that it's the police they're trying to keep happy. It's almost as though they're expecting trouble.
    Well that was Maggie's wisdom, she never fucked with the police while trying to crush dissent. By contrast, May has pissed off the police more than any Home Secretary in living memory.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    Gubment lifting public sector pay cap for police and prison officers this year, though with inflation at 2.9% now it's still a real-terms cut. Say "next year" for the rest. Unions aren't happy so winter of discontent incoming.
    Interesting that it's the police they're trying to keep happy. It's almost as though they're expecting trouble.
    Well that was Maggie's wisdom, she never fucked with the police while trying to crush dissent. By contrast, May has pissed off the police more than any Home Secretary in living memory.
    I think the below inflation "extra" that doesn't count for pension or future raises might well have pissed them off more.

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