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    When is the second mud season in Ukraine? I thought there was a frozen ground window-of-mobility in December, January and February, but for whatever reason we haven't seen much movement. After that there's the big mud season, but when does that tend to end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckduck View Post
    When is the second mud season in Ukraine? I thought there was a frozen ground window-of-mobility in December, January and February, but for whatever reason we haven't seen much movement. After that there's the big mud season, but when does that tend to end?
    Guessing second half of March.
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    This is one of the warmest winters in the region, so the ground didn't freeze as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    This is one of the warmest winters in the region, so the ground didn't freeze as much.
    The warmest. Highest recorded temperature in history was set..

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    Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???

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    willy's got a new interview, mostly about Wagner in Bakhmut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    willy's got a new interview, mostly about Wagner in Bakhmut

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    V. good. and opens a lot of questions. But one is if a guy like that is providing feedback to people, places and orgs that 1) listen and take it seriously 2) make use and push for changes?
    It seems this is really, really something that needs to be heard by people in charge.
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    Ukraine: Russian troops 'reluctant to accept first T-14 Armata tanks due to poor condition': https://www.forces.net/russia/ukrain...ition-mod-says

    Russian troops in Ukraine were reluctant to accept main battle tanks in Ukraine because they were in such poor condition, the Ministry of Defence (MOD) has said.

    In an intelligence update on Twitter, the MOD said Russia worked to "prepare a small number of T-14 Armata main battle tanks for the type's first operational deployment in Ukraine".

    "However, in recent months, deployed Russian forces were reluctant to accept the first tranche of T-14 allocated to them because the vehicles were in such poor condition," the update said.

    The MOD said it was "unclear" which aspects of the vehicle prompted the reaction from Russian troops, but officials have "publicly described problems with the T-14's engine and thermal imaging systems".

    "In 2021, Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu described the planned production run for 2022 as only an 'experimental-industrial' batch," the intelligence post said.

    "Therefore, it is unlikely that any deployed T-14 tanks will have met the usual standards for new equipment to be deemed operational."

    It comes after the US is expected to announce it is sending Abrams tanks to Ukraine.

    Alongside the pledge from Washington, it is expected Germany will also announce their intention to approve Poland's request to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine.

    The UK has already sent Challenger 2 tanks, but one expert told Forces News the British tanks "won't make a big difference" to Ukraine on their own.
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    Maybe because the weapons are moving both ways?
    When Ukraine captures important Russian military technology, (like this Krasukha-4 Electronic Warfare complex) it's handed over to western intelligence agencies for evaluation and rapid countermeasures design.

    https://breakingdefense.com/2023/01/...untermeasures/
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    Or maybe, just maybe, it's just a semi working body kit of T-72 made as a kneejerk reaction to announcement of



    which also went nowhere.

    Although T-72 body kit wouldn't break so often on parades.
    Guess we'll never know the truth.

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    tbh ukraine would be best off with upgraded t-72's from Poland, Czech, Slovenia etc than export model Abrams and Leos without the magic armor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    tbh ukraine would be best off with upgraded t-72's from Poland, Czech, Slovenia etc than export model Abrams and Leos without the magic armor
    ... and now they have both T-XX and Leos: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ds-2023-01-27/

    It's good to know that world leaders are monitoring this thread for ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    Ukraine: Russian troops 'reluctant to accept first T-14 Armata tanks due to poor condition': https://www.forces.net/russia/ukrain...ition-mod-says

    Russian troops in Ukraine were reluctant to accept main battle tanks in Ukraine because they were in such poor condition, the Ministry of Defence (MOD) has said.

    In an intelligence update on Twitter, the MOD said Russia worked to "prepare a small number of T-14 Armata main battle tanks for the type's first operational deployment in Ukraine".

    "However, in recent months, deployed Russian forces were reluctant to accept the first tranche of T-14 allocated to them because the vehicles were in such poor condition," the update said.

    The MOD said it was "unclear" which aspects of the vehicle prompted the reaction from Russian troops, but officials have "publicly described problems with the T-14's engine and thermal imaging systems".

    "In 2021, Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu described the planned production run for 2022 as only an 'experimental-industrial' batch," the intelligence post said.

    "Therefore, it is unlikely that any deployed T-14 tanks will have met the usual standards for new equipment to be deemed operational."

    It comes after the US is expected to announce it is sending Abrams tanks to Ukraine.

    Alongside the pledge from Washington, it is expected Germany will also announce their intention to approve Poland's request to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine.

    The UK has already sent Challenger 2 tanks, but one expert told Forces News the British tanks "won't make a big difference" to Ukraine on their own.
    The UK is sending about as many Challengers as the RFAF will get T-14s. Or more, if you only count actually operational units.
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    Would create work for Germany.

    According to information published by the German Newspaper "Handelsblatt" on January 20, 2023, the defense industry of Germany could propose refurbished ex-Jordanian army Challenger 1 Main Battle Tanks to Ukraine. Two countries in the Middle East including Oman and Jordan have a large quantity of Challenger 1 tanks that have been withdrawn from service.
    https://armyrecognition.com/defense_...o_ukraine.html

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    It would be profitable, yeah.
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    Eh, old Challenger I? Kinda doubtful utility there, is there even ammunition available in worthwhile qty?
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    Ex "Azov SOF" now acting as 3rd separate assault brigade fighting in Bakhmut direction.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...otage_bakhmut/

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    Anyone has any idea how many MBTs in total are pledged for Ukraine so far, from trustworthy media sources. Ukraine sources say 321 but after that Greece and Poland announced new numbers.
    And i would like to see a total number of IFVs and APCs. An additional time frame would be perfect like some Leos will be most likely in Ukraine at the end of March and Abrams at the end of year.

    After all we can estimate how many mechanized brigades Ukraine can field with the ability of combined arms.
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    We never know exactly how many MBT will be delivered, 321 is like a target, together with refurbish T-72 donated.

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