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    Teachers aren't even respected by the educational structures which employ them. In the UK teachers are paid fuck all for the amount of work they are expected to do.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Teachers aren't even respected by the educational structures which employ them. In the UK teachers are paid fuck all for the amount of work they are expected to do.
    Same here, in major cities Lidl cashiers earn more than teachers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckduck View Post
    Another brilliant approach to maths at my kids school is to deliberately sit the kids on mixed ability tables. And the make the more able kids explain stuff to the less able! This might seem like holding the better kids back, to make the less good feel OK, woke lefty shit. But actually, as I'm sure most of you have experienced, having to explain something to someone else vastly improves your understanding and mastery of the topic. The better kids don't race ahead to doing calculus at aged 11, but instead understand and can discuss primary school maths at an exceptional level.
    Yeah amazing. Real use of talent there.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    Teachers not being respected is a massive issue in the West it seems. But what can you expect when a standard response to "I'm a teacher" is "those who can, do, those who can't, teach."
    To be fair though, this (disrespect) unfortunately isn't restricted to teachers. Soldiers share the same fate (mainly due to our past), as does the police*), and of all things also emergency medics and firefighters. I mean ... those are there to help you! And you literally attack them?

    *) One might argue there might be reasons to do so, because the police has structural problems which need to be fixed. But I don't think that applies to all of them. The few bad apples make the whole thing look rotten and the mold might have actually spread due to neglecting the problems for quite some time now. But still...
    Who and where hates firefighters?
    I have no idea, but in Germany attacks on rescue teams (medics, firefighters) increase. For various reasons on various occasions, e.g. I remember a news report where voyeuristic spectators at a bigger car crash on the Autobahn attacked the helpers when those arrived and tried to make the spectators move aside so they could reach the injured and help them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
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    Teachers not being respected is a massive issue in the West it seems. But what can you expect when a standard response to "I'm a teacher" is "those who can, do, those who can't, teach."
    To be fair though, this (disrespect) unfortunately isn't restricted to teachers. Soldiers share the same fate (mainly due to our past), as does the police*), and of all things also emergency medics and firefighters. I mean ... those are there to help you! And you literally attack them?

    *) One might argue there might be reasons to do so, because the police has structural problems which need to be fixed. But I don't think that applies to all of them. The few bad apples make the whole thing look rotten and the mold might have actually spread due to neglecting the problems for quite some time now. But still...
    Who and where hates firefighters?
    I have no idea, but in Germany attacks on rescue teams (medics, firefighters) increase. For various reasons on various occasions, e.g. I remember a news report where voyeuristic spectators at a bigger car crash on the Autobahn attacked the helpers when those arrived and tried to make the spectators move aside so they could reach the injured and help them.
    Same in NL
    Schopenhauer:

    All truth passes through three stages.
    First, it is ridiculed.
    Second, it is violently opposed.
    Third, it is accepted as being self-evident..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
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    Teachers not being respected is a massive issue in the West it seems. But what can you expect when a standard response to "I'm a teacher" is "those who can, do, those who can't, teach."
    To be fair though, this (disrespect) unfortunately isn't restricted to teachers. Soldiers share the same fate (mainly due to our past), as does the police*), and of all things also emergency medics and firefighters. I mean ... those are there to help you! And you literally attack them?

    *) One might argue there might be reasons to do so, because the police has structural problems which need to be fixed. But I don't think that applies to all of them. The few bad apples make the whole thing look rotten and the mold might have actually spread due to neglecting the problems for quite some time now. But still...
    Who and where hates firefighters?
    I have no idea, but in Germany attacks on rescue teams (medics, firefighters) increase. For various reasons on various occasions, e.g. I remember a news report where voyeuristic spectators at a bigger car crash on the Autobahn attacked the helpers when those arrived and tried to make the spectators move aside so they could reach the injured and help them.
    Same in NL
    Firefighters and medics/ambulances do not go without police escort to many areas in sweden these days. And last week(s) full scale riots and attacks on police in the wake of that idiot burning a fantasy book was also a nice touch.
    I especially enjoyed our media trying their best to obfuscate their (initial) reporting to make is sound like it was the supporters of the book burning idiot that did it. Then of course down playing the actual perps and blaming the police for not being better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Was nuked by mods. Disinformation?
    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
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    Was nuked by mods. Disinformation?
    Unrelated footage. Same as with that fail missile launch I used to troll Razor with years ago. In the begining of conflict it resurfaced branded as from current conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
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    Teachers not being respected is a massive issue in the West it seems. But what can you expect when a standard response to "I'm a teacher" is "those who can, do, those who can't, teach."
    To be fair though, this (disrespect) unfortunately isn't restricted to teachers. Soldiers share the same fate (mainly due to our past), as does the police*), and of all things also emergency medics and firefighters. I mean ... those are there to help you! And you literally attack them?

    *) One might argue there might be reasons to do so, because the police has structural problems which need to be fixed. But I don't think that applies to all of them. The few bad apples make the whole thing look rotten and the mold might have actually spread due to neglecting the problems for quite some time now. But still...
    Who and where hates firefighters?
    I have no idea, but in Germany attacks on rescue teams (medics, firefighters) increase. For various reasons on various occasions, e.g. I remember a news report where voyeuristic spectators at a bigger car crash on the Autobahn attacked the helpers when those arrived and tried to make the spectators move aside so they could reach the injured and help them.
    What the fuck...

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    Berlin is testing bodycams. 30 in total, 20 with the police, 10 with the fire department, which also provides most EMS. They are being introduced due to the wishes of both the police union and the firefighters.

    Teachers are paid quite well here and still get no recognition. There were a thousand unfilled positions before the last Summer break. People are switching careers, but mostly young people do not want to become teachers.

    @duckduck: modern education in the West focuses on training competencies, not rote memorization. Education should be action-oriented (practical, not theoretical), applicable to real life, relevant to the child's life and the child's position in society.
    That doesn't excuse bad behavior in class — it's detrimental even. But when parents provide no meaningful consequences at home for bad behavior, then everybody loses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckduck View Post
    Another brilliant approach to maths at my kids school is to deliberately sit the kids on mixed ability tables. And the make the more able kids explain stuff to the less able! This might seem like holding the better kids back, to make the less good feel OK, woke lefty shit. But actually, as I'm sure most of you have experienced, having to explain something to someone else vastly improves your understanding and mastery of the topic. The better kids don't race ahead to doing calculus at aged 11, but instead understand and can discuss primary school maths at an exceptional level.
    So much this and i can tell from my own experience. I started do give maths private lessons when i was in my first year of uni and i was already quite good especially at analysis. Having to explain things is a whole different level what worked for me might not work for my students and you have to find an alternative way to get them there.
    Your own knowledge and understanding improves so much it is mind boggling.

    A good example is how to explain and proof the Pythagorean theorem, there're so many different ways.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_theorem
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    In Finland, the universities have also started to encourage people co-operating on the maths homework problems, as it has been shown to actually increase the skill levels for all involved.

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    Anybody who has done any kind of teaching knows that explaining subject x makes it also more clear to your self as you need to structure and formulate while many people have a 'gut' feeling understanding of most things. You are confronted with your own understanding and logic flaws when you verbally teach/explain a subject.


    Not a paradigm shift i know, just adding to the conversation
    Schopenhauer:

    All truth passes through three stages.
    First, it is ridiculed.
    Second, it is violently opposed.
    Third, it is accepted as being self-evident..

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    Maybe the plan is to make classroom sizes so big the very best students have to teach so many of their peers we end up with superior educational outcomes and don't need to pay as many teachers.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Euros are not alone there, UK ambo service staff are often attacked at work.
    I was very annoyed when they took the body armour away (we can't afford it for the new staff so no one can have any)..

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    Moved it to Superior EU thread, probably more appropriate and does not derail this thread further.
    Last edited by Lowa [NSN]; April 27 2022 at 11:00:47 AM.
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    I would create a dragon made out of vaginas. Then I would create a dragon made out of dicks. Then I would have them fight to the death.

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    Ukraine gets one of the coolest arty gadgets on the market. Meet Archer. Gone before impact on target.



    Ukraine is turning into largest test weapons ground:
    ATM almost everything on market, last entry France Milan https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ssian_vehicle/
    coming soon howitzers 155 mm almost every configuration, 33 and 52 calibers.

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    Teachers aren't respected. Ukrainian soldiers are respected. So send teachers to fight for Ukraine (and they can learn Ukrainian teaching methods inbetween battles) = problem solved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Ukraine gets one of the coolest arty gadgets on the market. Meet Archer. Gone before impact on target.



    Ukraine is turning into largest test weapons ground:
    ATM almost everything on market, last entry France Milan https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ssian_vehicle/
    coming soon howitzers 155 mm almost every configuration, 33 and 52 calibers.
    Are we (Sweden) sending it or someone else? I honestly did not know it was a thing outside Sweden (the guided ammo sure, but not the platform). Not looked lately but all I've seen, inc this video, has been done and presented in Sweden.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarminic View Post
    I would create a dragon made out of vaginas. Then I would create a dragon made out of dicks. Then I would have them fight to the death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Ukraine gets one of the coolest arty gadgets on the market. Meet Archer. Gone before impact on target.



    Ukraine is turning into largest test weapons ground:
    ATM almost everything on market, last entry France Milan https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ssian_vehicle/
    coming soon howitzers 155 mm almost every configuration, 33 and 52 calibers.
    Are we (Sweden) sending it or someone else? I honestly did not know it was a thing outside Sweden (the guided ammo sure, but not the platform). Not looked lately but all I've seen, inc this video, has been done and presented in Sweden.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarminic View Post
    I would create a dragon made out of vaginas. Then I would create a dragon made out of dicks. Then I would have them fight to the death.

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