The BoB Lands (Fountain/Delve/Querious/Period Basis)

[Fear]

PL has moved to the north to help the Drone Russians fight there war with the north. A little off topic here but this is how the first battle went http://majesta.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_rel ... id=9341574.

I'm sure -A- and co are moving to retake atlas space. and push the people(if there was any) that bought space from PL out of delve/quer.


Update since I had my post ability polled. ROL and nulli have started taking all the sov they can in delve. To be fair i dont think they will last long when someone comes wanting to conquer that space.

[Helen]

Looks like ROL making a land grab in Delve at the moment.
Delve sov as of today

[Cassius Hawkeye]

I miss PL, now delve is...

[Helfix]

Looks like ROL making a land grab in Delve at the moment.
Delve sov as of today

Well, tbh, they should be, delve is some of the best space in game. especially if the new anom changes go through.

[Redmoore]

Managed to get a couple of good fights last night.

We heard there was a structure coming out of reinforce somewhere in delve last night. Assembled a small hellcat fleet. After spending almost 2 hours trying to find the fleet we managed to engage in 0-IOAI.
Enemy fleet was ~10 dreads, ~5 carriers, and ~30 subcaps

http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...d&kll_id=22962

We were a little light on hics and dics and they managed to get most of thier capitals out, we did manage to keep an arcon two revs and a moroes in bubbles or pointed but they self destructed before we could kill them, one of the moroes in less than half armor .

favorite km of the night

http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...l&kll_id=22959

nice helping our 2 scorps with jams on thier own logi chain.

After this we quickly moved to help huns killing an onlining TCU in 5-6QW

There was a fleet of carriers, bs and bc on guard but they docked up when we entered system.
We burnt down the TCU and when it was almost dead thier FC decided that perhaps he could engage us after all and warped his fleet into our stop bubble , and have his carriers rain down on us with fighters which we were only to happy to pop for him. We could have forced more of a fight but by this time it was late, we had been out for about 4 hours so off home we went.

http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...d&kll_id=22980

Was a fun fleet. It was nice to move around delve without having the PL super cap fleet drop on you.
Hopefully we can get some more of these good fights on late US TZ

[Vilgan]

absurd to make a new thread for this, so grabbing nearest one:

Who lives in npc fountain? Would assume some people would be moving there to have fun with test.

[Redmoore]

station in 5BTM-K coming out of its final timer today

So we took the opertunity to get a fight.

The server had an emergency shut down just as we were be going to form, and we were looking a bit light on numbers , but eventually people started to trickle back on.

Test were had an alpha fleet with carriers and supers in system

We bridged our ahac fleet into sys , and then managed to get a nice warp in on thier fleet

Thier scimis died really fast.
Our dictors did a great job on keep bubbles on thier fleet so we managed to work our way though a lot of thier ships.
About halfway though the fight carriers and supers warped on grid at range , they did manage to work thier way through a lot of our tackle but really didnt have much influence of the fight. We just stayed on their sub cap fleet and the caps warp off once they had ninjad a few kill mails


http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a=ki ... l_id=25024
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9569781

Much better out come for us than our last fight. where we made a few mistakes which really cost us a lot of ships and a good number of our fleet suffered perma jamming.

Edit added some fraps footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyZgko18hxA

[Dodgy Past]

absurd to make a new thread for this, so grabbing nearest one:

Who lives in npc fountain? Would assume some people would be moving there to have fun with test.

G0dfathers have been in NPC fountain from the IT pet days and I believe HUN Reloaded ended up moving from Sov space to NPC space and bluing them.

[Tyrehl]

absurd to make a new thread for this, so grabbing nearest one:

Who lives in npc fountain? Would assume some people would be moving there to have fun with test.

G0dfathers have been in NPC fountain from the IT pet days and I believe HUN Reloaded ended up moving from Sov space to NPC space and bluing them.

Im not sure if i understood you correctly, but "G0dfathers" are nowhere near IT pets. Actually quite the opposite they dont "like" it afaik.



They were blue to test and co (AFAIK !!!! Im not really active recently) but they reseted them / got reseted so they started pwning test noobs and pets in the region.

[Dogbeast]

absurd to make a new thread for this, so grabbing nearest one:

Who lives in npc fountain? Would assume some people would be moving there to have fun with test.

G0dfathers have been in NPC fountain from the IT pet days and I believe HUN Reloaded ended up moving from Sov space to NPC space and bluing them.

Im not sure if i understood you correctly, but "G0dfathers" are nowhere near IT pets. Actually quite the opposite they dont "like" it afaik.



They were blue to test and co (AFAIK !!!! Im not really active recently) but they reseted them / got reseted so they started pwning test noobs and pets in the region.

He was saying that G0dfathers have lived in NPC fountain since PL/SoT were removed from Fountain. They were hostile with IT pets, and sometimes ran with GK inc. and V.L.A.S.T. guys to engage in guerrilla warfare against the IT pets. Most notably harassing BLAST in the Minotaur constellation. So all in all, they are pretty much doing the same thing now, that they did then. Just against different residents.

[Dodgy Past]

^^

I have a soft spot for them having enjoyed being in a similar position, after seeing them when I was in Fountain for an NC(dot) campaign vs. BLADE etc. I wasn't surprised they were still there. Also the V.L.A.S.T. guys are classy, one of them looted and returned my storyline cargo after a daddy insta'd my magnate .

[Mythago]

Not much of a battle report, but an epic bombing run. NOL station was coming out of reinforce and when our black ops fleet ended up with 50 people we decided to switch to bombers and sniper hacs and see what we can do. We set up off the station with the hacs and Test get a warp in of our sniper hacs. Unfortunately I'm the only dictor in the fleet and cloaked next to the station so we don't catch the entire Test fleet. However bombs are launched pretty much to perfection, and we catch most of the fleet.

http://killboard.nullisecunda.com/?a...d&kll_id=25756

There was a little bit of skirmishing afterwards, we said GF and left for home.

[Jackblasta]

with all the attention being focussed on the north atm, does anyone know whats going on in Period Basis right now?
Looking at dotlan, it seems to me that the romanians have evicted some of their pets/renters in the past week or two (mainly vikings) http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/V...Empire/changes

[BuRniZZ]

They have more than doubled their numbers the last couple of weeks so might want the space for themselves.

[zergl]

There's quite some Dramalama about that on eveger.de (VE being mostly/exclusively? German).

Apparently they thought that since they're bigger they could take the space for themselves and had some delusions about getting help (or at least non-intervention) from Nulli and/or other residents in the area.

Turns out they were terribly wrong and were consequently curbstomped about it.

[Oli Robbo]

We've beein in the area [Delve] for just over a week now, a quick update on the main people in the area and what sort of characteristics they use.

HUNs - Hun reloaded,
These guys obv bear up in their own constellations, but if theyre not doing this they generally float around in the pipe between FWST or 319 in a couple of really fail fit no-tank tempests, or buffer bait cyno BCs which are backed up by either a couple of archons or a titan bridge, apart from these two tactics they roam very little.

Goons - Goonswarm Federation
hold up around PR- covert camping the gates in the system. They usually roll with either nano stuff if they move around or arazu's/rapiers which are backed up by carriers when hotdropping. They also have a couple of supers in the area, a nyx which is always online in pr- and an aeon which isn't online very much.

404 - Not Found.
Generally base from z3v / kfie. Roam with standard 30+ gangs of mish-mash stuff. They once cov cyno'd a panther in on us when they had a 'normal' gang on the gate waiting to jump in. Not very much in the way of gang co-ordination, but can bring some fights on occasion.

VCRUZ - Vera Cruz Alliance
From period basis, usually found in nano gangs/ frig gangs with a buzzard or sader as scout. They did bring a BS gang the other day into PR- which were mainly t1 fit with t1 sentries. Couldn't figure out what they were hitting though - It looked like a POS bashing gang, but the only moons in the system worth taking were clear of hostiles.

ROL/ Nulli Secunda
ROL basically just rat.
Nulli secunda usually form up pretty quick if you venture into their constellation around c3n but otherwise don't really do a whole lot either.

[Cydo]

In recent news:
Vanguard Imperium + a few friends just got reset by Atlas.

Will hopefully liven PVP up in Querious from just being Stain/Russians/Noir. roaming about, as Vanguard own a few stations.

Got no idea why the reset happened except there is now a free Shmak Datash campaign against these guys, maybe someone in the know can expand further.

[Kalorn]

Target: Atlas
From: Silas Vitalia
Sent: 2011.06.05 05:48
To: Vanguard Imperium,

All PVP fleets are now to focus on Atlas assets and pilots.

You are to hit their structures, hit their pilots, hit their renters. 24/7/365 It's open season. I want daily fleets shitting on them, constantly. If they undock I want them dead. If they run our pipe, I want them dead.

I want kills, and dead structures. Bring me corpses, bring be burned structures, bring me dead pods.

They have superior firepower in certain situations, we have numbers to royally annoy the hell out of them. Hit towers, hit assets, kill them all.

Cam-pain Engaged.
-S

Heh.

[Cydo]

Target: Atlas
From: Silas Vitalia
Sent: 2011.06.05 05:48
To: Vanguard Imperium,

All PVP fleets are now to focus on Atlas assets and pilots.

You are to hit their structures, hit their pilots, hit their renters. 24/7/365 It's open season. I want daily fleets shitting on them, constantly. If they undock I want them dead. If they run our pipe, I want them dead.

I want kills, and dead structures. Bring me corpses, bring be burned structures, bring me dead pods.

They have superior firepower in certain situations, we have numbers to royally annoy the hell out of them. Hit towers, hit assets, kill them all.

Cam-pain Engaged.
-S

Heh.

Fun times ahead.

(Atlas renter here)

[Bacchanalian]

Didn't see one for Fountain unless it's one of the DRF hurf blurf -A- somebody whatever threads that I don't follow because lolblobwafarez.

So yeah. Last Friday night we went and blew shit up. Most of it was in Fountain. So I'm posting this. And Grarr will probably come onto our IRC and scream at me and rage about how I did it wrong, but ? Grarr so it's all good.

CTA edited and cross-posted from the Rote boards. Someone else wrote it, mine aren't that cool and don't involve mushroom stamp pictures.

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Formup started 15 mins early, and largely I was able to get the fleetcomp I wanted, no real issues. We peaked at 34 in fleet, which is largely indicated by this killmail Though our total guardian count was 5, so that indicates 1 or 2 extras. Other than the guardians, we had a HIC, DIC, scout + a few frig backups, and the normal bevy of ahac's and commandships (plus an eos with links which I still don't know what to think about).


[size=12pt]The Plan [/size]

The plan was 2 part: 1. Go to 6-CZ where GROONs had indicated that there would be fights. Then when we found no fights, 2. Head to Fountain where Dreddit would blob us. In this respect, everything went exactly according to plan.

I need to take a second to talk about point 2. Dreddit like to fight. If you give them the chance to form up, they generally will. Sometimes they bring drunken frigates, sometimes they bring drakefleet, but they WILL bring something. You really can't bitch about the blobbing- when we go visit them, we know EXACTLY what we are signing up for.

Sure, we could go all nano, but IMO, fuck it- Go balls deep. Go get goodfights~ out of them if you can manage it. Don't whine about the numbers, we go to fountain looking for the blob.

Not that I heard anyone bitching about anything, but it's worth reiterating a bit.


[size=12pt]Six Charlie Leg[/size]

Nothing too much to report here, You can see prox losing a dram to a cane, as well as us clearing out some GROON stuff.

http://rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=...d&kll_id=53266
http://rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=...t&kll_id=53263

Flying Safely stayed well within their pos shields, as did the camping failures who live in F67E, who I can't remember now. Worth noting that both systems had 30ish populations before we got there, so there are bodies in space- just not bodies we can fight on a friday night. I GUESS, a lesson could be we should titan bridge them, but I prefer to not burn those plays. GROON _tries_ to fight us, so I'm not a fan of bridging them.

Regardless, pretty uneventful stuff.


[size=12pt]The Fountain Stomp[/size]

We went to Fountain walking heavy, and letting them get eyes on our fleet whenever possible, so that we could get a fight. I was HOPING that they would have something up and about by the time we got to APM, as hiking down the 6VT pocket wasn't really what I WANTED to do, but v0v, you go where the ships are. By the time I got word from intel channels that they were forming up to fight us, we were already chilling next door to 6VT, so the next step was sitting back on heels, and getting ready. The one thing I did RIGHT here, was get us to a safe so we could bio ahead of time. THAT decision was the right one.

Anyways, I had mango in 6V, fleet in B170, and Prox asked to go hunt ratters deeper in the pocket. We figured them at about 40ish at this point, and forming, so we knew our fight would be soon. Furthermore, F-A were getting a fleet together, though I didn't have specifics. Prox calls a point on a Maelstrom in 7BX, so I order fleet to advance. As we land on the 7BX gate, there are a number of ships there already, so I order bubble up... these targets jump through, prox drops point on the Maelstrom as I order fleet into 7BX to gank, however their fleet has landed @60ish- things start OK, and I call a drake that is on gate at zero with us, but as it's increasingly obvious that the majority of their assets are at range, I order deagress and orbit. We lose one Deimos here, who looks like he didn't get reps, but I wasn't prepared to fight them starting at long range, so we cross-jump reapproach, but they aren't interested in the fight and bail out through AV-V. Meanwhile, we hold, and kill some scrubs coming into us.

I'm a little miffed at not getting the fight I wanted here, but mango lands a tackle on a carrier in AV-V, and so we are happy again. We leave the pod up for a bit, hoping their fleet comes to save him, but it's not to be, so we pop that and head back into 7BX. There's a lot of cat/mouse going on as people are jockeying for field position, which ends with their fleet landing on our fleet on the 6VDT gate. I order jump through/reapproach and [sean connery]the game is afoot![/sean connery].

Here is the best link I could find for the first fight: http://rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=...d&kll_id=53286

Not much to say about it... giant ass fight, fight started out OK, but I had a HELL of a time with target calling due to range issues. I asked bacc to take over for a bit when every fucking ship which shown at 20 to me was showing at 60 to the world. Overall, our reps were largely holding against their DPS EXCEPT their disproportionate ewar was playing hell with our chains. I counted 6 blackbirds and a falcon. Orders were given to Zealots to sort by type and axe their ewar, but we really just didn't have the numbers to deal with this, IMO.

We lost a guardian, and I didn't like how they had pulled to range (and I was all fucked up), so I ordered deaggress/drones-in/orbit, and started yelling at Nem who was about 40k off gate (finally got brackets working again, thank you very much CCP).

GF's were traded, and we bailed out.


[size=12pt]This begins cleanup[/size]

So, after the big fight, we were basically left with: "you are trapped in a pocket guarded by jerks, what do you do?".

Nestor crashes again, I have fleet moving towards the back part of the loop. I crash. Shit's fucked up. We have a FA fleet trying to trap up in the back door, and Dreddit trying to sandwhich. Bacc has fleet, and since his balls are bigger than his head, he decides to take a swing at the FA fleet.

That goes like this:
http://rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=...d&kll_id=53324

But you have to count Usagi's loss on the other side of the gate as Dreddit finally gets there.
http://rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=...l&kll_id=53321

Nestor logs back in landing in the middle of a hostile fleet and dies. Leboe is alt-fucking-tabbed, and dies like an xbox ([heart]). Fleet logoffski's, chills heels for 45 mins, then logs in, comes home, kills a legion on the way back.

Return fleet size was 22ish, including 4 guardians, scout, dictor, and hacs. so we were well formed on the homebound journey.


[size=12pt]Postop Analysis[/size]

Overall, I'm slightly disappointed with myself, slightly dissappointed with CCP (this is the worst patch since the one which disco'ed you when you jumped through a gate), and overall mostly pleased with the engagement. While I'm sorry if I got your ship blown up, I'm not sorry enough to stop doing it, so v0v.

The related "adjacent" that I think covers most of the running bits of that huge engagement: http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a ... l_id=53325

Veto lost 4(?) ships, a Claymore, Muninn, Zealot, and not sure on the other. So those obviously don't show on our side for losses. I don't think Veto guys got any kills that Rote aren't on, but I haven't double checked, so that may or may not be accurate.

Oh and one other comment, I love the TEST guys. Literally seconds after the carrier died I get convoed by a TEST guy begging me for the killmail so he can smack the carrier pilot on Jabber for losing a ratting carrier when there had been an enemy fleet showing up in intel channels for 45 minutes. +1 to that guy.